Do E-6 Mercury Have Trust Reverser? (2025)

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Do E-6 Mercury Have Trust Reverser?

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Sat May 27, 2006 3:50 am

Hello

I was a little shock when I herd

KC

-135R did not have trust reverser. It seen like a pain in the neck for the pilot who has to land them on short fields. The E-6 Mercury has the same CFM-56-2 that powers

KC

-135R, but it been said that E-6 have trust reverser. So I am ask anybody who work or see this aircraft on a regular bases do they have trust reverser. Also do they come in loud like a

KC

-135R?

PS

: Yes

KC

-135R can get noisy, one came into

NAS

Pensacola and it was almost as loud as 707-300. But they are quiet on take off.

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RE: Do E-6 Mercury Have Trust Reverser?

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Sat May 27, 2006 4:09 am

The

USN

E-

6A

/B has thrust reversers. The reason the

KC

-135R does not have thrust reversers is because when

SAC

first ordered it, the

SAC

maintenance folks didn't want another system to maintane. So the US

AF

paid to have the thrust reverser system engineered out of the engines/system.

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2H4
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RE: Do E-6 Mercury Have Trust Reverser?

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Sat May 27, 2006 5:20 am

Quoting KC135TopBoom (Reply 1):
So the USAF paid to have the thrust reverser system engineered out of the engines/system.

Does that affect winter ops at all?

2H4

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RE: Do E-6 Mercury Have Trust Reverser?

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Sat May 27, 2006 6:09 am

But the

KC

-135E has trust reverser.

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RE: Do E-6 Mercury Have Trust Reverser?

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Sat May 27, 2006 9:06 am

There is also the issue that the

KC

-135R typically lands at light weights, i.e. it would have offloaded the bulk of its "cargo", i.e. fuel, to other aircraft. Therefore braking would be less of an issue than with something like the E-6, which I presume has a lot of heavy electronic and communications gear installed. The US

AF

is not known for operating types such as the

KC

-135 from short runways in any case.

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RE: Do E-6 Mercury Have Trust Reverser?

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Sat May 27, 2006 10:22 am

NAS Pensacola runways are kinda short. Or I could have I under estimated the runway size.

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RE: Do E-6 Mercury Have Trust Reverser?

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Sat May 27, 2006 2:45 pm

Quoting 747400sp (Reply 5):
NAS Pensacola runways are kinda short. Or I could have I under estimated the runway size.

[QUOTE]

NAS

Pensacola contains Forrest Sherman Field which consists of two parallel runways (7/25) 8002'x 200 and a single North/South runway 7,137' x 200'. [QUOTE]

This is what I found on Pensacola Chamber of Commerce website. Don't know what

KC

-135 requirements are for field length. Hope this helps.

Vadim

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RE: Do E-6 Mercury Have Trust Reverser?

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Sat May 27, 2006 8:26 pm

Quoting 747400sp (Reply 3):
But the KC-135E has trust reverser.

The

KC

-135E was modified, mostly, from ANG/USAFR

KC

-135As.

Quoting Visakow (Reply 6):
Don't know what KC-135 requirements are for field length.

When I was in

SAC

, IIRC, the minimum field lenght for the

KC

-135A was 7,000', with a light gross weight (185,000lbs, or less). I would guess it is pretty much the same today with AMC and

ACC KC

-135s.

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RE: Do E-6 Mercury Have Trust Reverser?

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Mon May 29, 2006 2:32 am

Quoting 747400sp (Thread starter):
Do E-6 Mercury Have Trust Reverser?

As has already been answered, the E-

6B

has thrust reversers on all four engines as well as other emergency braking systems because of the heavy load.

Quoting 747400sp (Reply 5):
NAS Pensacola runways are kinda short. Or I could have I under estimated the runway size.

Again, as was already answered, the 7's and 25's are just over 8'000, so there's plenty of room for landing. It can handle the total tandem weight of Air Force one, which we took several times during my stay there, so it can handle just about anything as far as length and weight bearing goes.

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RE: Do E-6 Mercury Have Trust Reverser?

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Wed May 31, 2006 1:07 am

Some ANG units send one of their

KC

-135R to the Muskegon Airshow for static every year and their runway is 6500ft runway. Im sure the aircraft is pretty light though.

The US Navy has sent their

TC

-18 and E-

6A

/B up to Traverse City for Touch'n' Goes,

TVC

also has a 6500ft runway... But, it is the Navy, and they do have thrust reversers.

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RE: Do E-6 Mercury Have Trust Reverser?

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Thu Jun 01, 2006 8:36 am

Quoting Visakow (Reply 6):
Don't know what KC-135 requirements are for field length. Hope this helps.

If you go in/out light, Its not that long. Ive seen the R's take off from

PIT

using barely 4,000ft. But this was most likely with a light load. Ive also seen them use upwards of 9,000, so its kinda a give or take.

ATCT

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